Thursday, June 1, 2017

A Few More Thoughts On Pali

I appreciate all the comments people have made about yesterday's post on Pallavicini Lift. The comments are a reflection of just how challenging a decision we had in selecting the replacement for so many people's favorite lift. Here a few more thoughts:

-The new lift will have a safety bar. Any new lift will have that.
-Our decision was based on what was the right lift for this location.
-Choosing the appropriate capacity of the lift was extremely important.
-While managing our costs is important, pricing was really not a significant issue in this decision. It was about putting in the right lift with the right capacity that makes the most people happy.
-While we know there are people that wanted a big, high speed lift, all of our indications were that the majority of our guests really like Pali just the way it is. Its capacity matches the terrain.

It was not a decision we made lightly.

22 comments:

Unky Bill said...

Alan- not sure if CO regulates the vertical (lift) capacity of resorts as I know other states do. Is this not also a factor? I will restate a comment I made regarding the Norway lift- if it could be repurposed to serve the Pali summit/West Wall (and Beavers), that would take some pressure off the Pali lift from skiers already above the base area.

Adam said...

You are making the right choice. I welcome the slow lift because usually my legs are burning from Pali runs and I'm nostalgic.

Matt Henry said...

Al is the man!!

Anonymous said...

Perfect answer

Steve Davimos said...

Thank you Al for the safety bars. A Basin is still and always will be one of my favorite ski areas on earth. Skiing the American Continental Divide. Its a great little ski area. I have been skiing it since around 1978. Now you can try and beat my time down when I was younger from the top to the bottom of 1:08 That's one minute 8 seconds. Sadly I don't think I can do that time anymore. Happily I don't know of any one who can beat that time unless you tell me so.

HeartBraden said...

"Its capacity matches it's terrain"

SO TRUE and so well said!! That's all it boils down to and you're absolutely right.

Jeff said...

I support your decision 100%. If only Mary Jane would have kept a double at Timberline, we might still get powder days on Parsenn. Unfortunately, they felt that part of the mountain was "under-utilized" in their words. Thank you for not going that direction.

Stuart Alderson said...

Every time I drive over Loveland Pass, my choice to take the long way, The Pali Lift always resonates in my mind as I go by. I still remember the first time I rode it up. The feel, the grind, the wind blowing through the trees. Pali lift was like having sex for the first time. I've never forgotten it, still have a love for it, and hope my love for it will never fade. I realize times change and updates are needed. Knowing that I had a chance to ride the coolest lift in the Rockies, for me that sets just right. A-basin has the most unique base, A-basins users know just how different it is. Only History will judge the improvements. This ski area has a living breathing personality, and it is still my first love. It has particulars that no other ski areas have. The people who ski and board here are as unique as the area itself. I still remember folks I've met there over the years. Pali will be missed, but remembered. It's only part of the love equation, at A-basin, there's still much more left to love. As a long distance lover, I always look forward to my next love affair. This area has my heart, now and forever. I believe it to be in good hands, and well taken care of. My first affair was in 1982, and I've been in love with the basin since. Stu Alderson

Anonymous said...

"The new lift will have a safety bar. Any new lift will have that"

(Unless it's at Loveland)

Anonymous said...

Fixed grip triple lifts are quaint and nostalgic, too. It wouldn't overload the terrain and it would be nice to have a singles line on busy days. Just saying. But, yeah, a high speed quad or six-pack there would ruin it.

Anonymous said...

Since we lost on the high speed decision, please at least add a foot rest. Some of us older folks with foot pain could tolerate the slowness better.

mark hanick said...

Not sure if the Pali name will stay when the physical lift changes. If not, a nod to the Dercums could be a nice nod(I know there's other homages around the mtn). Ham-chuk

Brad said...

Thank you for keeping the double! As for the safety bar, I guess we'll have to pretend it's not there!! :-( I'll forever love the hardcore old Pali lift.

Anonymous said...

I am very happy about the safety bar. No safety bars is what keeps me away from Loveland. I love skiing Pali when I can muster up the courage to ride the lift. With a bit of a height phobia no safety bar puts me in anxiety attack mode and I find my self entertwining my limbs throughout the Pali lift chair. Other than that it is a cool lift ;-)

John Collins said...

Al, your blog to walk us through the decision process for the Pali lift is unique and refreshing for this day and age. It's this type of information that makes you a great executive. While I would have preferred a modern detachable chair, your blog explained the nuances and challenges of any decision and therefore created a sense of consensus. Well done. If only our President would use this style of communication!! See you on the hill...

Anonymous said...

The Pali is not the issue with the overall master plan. The real question is the removal of the Norway and what will be done to alleviate congestion at the Lenawee. IMO, the planned removal of the Norway is big mistake.

Anonymous said...

Oh come on, buy us a helicopter.....

Anonymous said...

I have a lot of love for the Norway lift but I really can't fault the decision to remove it. It's only maybe 20% of the time it's busy enough to even spin it, and then there's never a lot of people riding it. Kind of hard to keep spending dough on upkeep under those conditions. Besides, I'm sure the expansion will take some pressure off the Lenawee pod on busy days.

Anonymous said...

The timberline days at jane were truly special. It's unfortunate that trees that hid fresh tracks for weeks are now tracked out in half an hour. I fully support the decision to keep the Pali true to what it is, a snow rider's chair. What a great aspect to a day of soul skiing!

chris hawkins said...

"Its capacity matches it's terrain"

As other commenters have said, this hits the nail on the head. It's refreshing and encouraging to see management look at the big picture and not just how fast they we move people through. Thank you Al.

Anonymous said...

Anyone tripping about a six minute chair servicing 1400 vert not being high speed is not really thinking

Anonymous said...

I like hearing the decision for the Pali lift. A faster lift would just result in the pali area getting crowded and skied out...